Re: The course icons - The Website Space Portal

Hi Joe

I am just going on holiday for a week, so I won’t be able to check these latest changes until 2nd Sept onwards.

Thanks for changing the History template. I am a bit worried about all this coding needed to send data between fields and the pages. What if I need to change a page’s style to something else if it is not appropriate, like with the history page, without support? This is the fundamental flexibility you need from WordPress. Is it possible to adapt the TWS Template? On another website, I use a template plug-in called Themify, and it allows pages to be changed in this way without the need for intermediary code.

Re WYSIWYG, what will it do to make it better for photos?

Also a couple of additional points:

The starting banner picture is cropping still, wheres it should display and then resize as you change the browser size.

If you choose the photo to be Left Justify with Text on the right, it doesn’t make any difference to the look of the page.

If you tell the caption to be centred, it doesn’t change, it stays left justified.

I’ve added screen grabs to illustrate these.

See you next week,

Steve Preston

Head of Media and Digital Production

St Mark’s Hospital Foundation & Academic Institute
St Mark’s Hospital, Central Middlesex, Acton Lane, London NW10 7NS
Also at Northwick Park, Watford Road, Harrow, Middx. HA1 3UJ
www.stmarksacademicinstitute.org.uk,www.stmarkshospitalfoundation.org.uk
St Mark’s Hospital Foundation, registered charity no 1140930

On 23 Aug 2024, at 16:44, Joseph Gregson wrote:

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Hi Stephen,

I have gone through these additional notes and made amendments to course titles and date issues.

In terms of the History page. I have changed the template used for this to a generic Text page in order for you to use a WYSIWYG text editor to change the content.

Please bear in mind that when you make changes to the ACF Field Groups, in the wordpress dashboard, these changes will not be reflected in the front end of the site. Deleting or altering the fields will remove current data, from those fields, on the front end of the site. Similarly, adding new fields will not appear in the front end directly, this is because to get the data from the fields onto the page templates, they need to be coded to call those data fields.

I have edited the WYSIWYG Display settings for image captions so that when you add a caption they should be able to see them in the front end, you can see an example of this on the History page. As for photos that are not in a WYSIWYG editor, I will need to go in and add the fields in the template code, is this something you want on all photos on all pages, or just for the History page?

Thanks,
Joe

On Wed, 21 Aug 2024 at 18:01, PRESTON, Stephen (LONDON NORTH WEST UNIVERSITY HEALTHCARE NHS TRUST) > wrote:
Hi Joe

Here is my reply to the current set of notes and changes:

Home / Courses

On the home page, the Courses section is obscure on a mobile, as the top
banner disappears by the time you reach it, and sizing wise it is a little too
dominant and it’s not obvious the scroll underneath is the way to look
through more. Changed, thanks

Also at this point, if you want to see all the courses, there is no hyperlink next
to this section. Changed, thanks

The courses also do not show their dates in a dominant fashion
on the home page, which is a key piece of data for our visitors.
Changed, thanks

Can we have the course title and the date in sentence case, not capitals please. So instead of

DIGITAL RECTAL EXAMINATION & PELVIC FLOOR MASTERCLASS
05 SEP 2024

It should be

Digital Masterclass Examination & Pelvic Floor Masterclass
05 Sept 2024

The font is an okay size on the smartphone, but the text is massive on a computer. Take it down a couple of notches, but not as small as the descriptive text excerpt of course. This will also help the date from having a end of line break. See: 16 OCT 2024 – 18 OCT 2024 as an example.

Also, while you have been making changes, the date field ‘From’ has gone into the wrong format. It now displays like so on all courses: 20241016

The ordering of courses, wherever they are displayed, should be date order, whereas generally
they show as alphabetic order based on title. Changed, thanks

On a mobile, the scroll bar is clunky and especially doesn’t work when it it
scrolled far right, it is hard to re-grab the circle and pull it back left. Changed, thanks

I have been trying to change the red lion icon for the courses, but have been
unable to do so. Adding banners or media to the course doesn’t update the
icon on the course list.
I have now been able to add an icon image, thank you

On Courses, multiple-day courses only show their first day on the preview page and home page. Can we improve this?
Changed, thanks

When you are on a specific course, the date field still shows a dash, even if it is a one day course.
Changed, thanks / but the start date is now in the wrong format as mentioned above = 20240905

The course information is restricted to a thin column to the left.
Changed, thanks

Pictures continue to be heavily cropped in this section. See Frontiers 2024 as a good example.
Changed, thanks

Education Courses

In the search bar, it does not find courses in November if you type Nov 2024
for example. No change, please check

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Courses that have expired don’t drop off the live list and go into the archive
list. Changed, thanks
When the computer browser is resized, the red bubbles coating the date can
resize into ovals. Changed, thanks

Photo cropping problems and text captions

I created new square versions of the problem photos in the way you described,
but it didn’t help matters, they are still badly cropped.
Cropping photos has improved, I have still seen it in the Find out more bubble in History, but I have removed this formatting and introduced WYSIWIG CONTENT. However this field does not show on the updated page, even though it shows in the editor, please check.

I am also having problems with the text under the photo that is the caption. I
have tried adding it in the caption box in the photo editor, but it puts the
sentence away from the picture and adds it on to the end of the next
paragraph. If you don’t do that and simply put the text in the main paragraph
flow instead, the text is uncomfortably far from the photo and looks like it is
associated with the next para as well.
I have not seen an improvement to adding captions to photos.

HOME PAGE
Photo cropping exists on the home page as well, for example the Dinh Mai Prize photo is affected by resizing the browser. Changed, thanks
The ‘Spotlight on Research’ lion logo in the bottom left has an opaque rectangle around the logo. Changed, thanks

Research / Research fellows

The staff categories list needs to be changed to allow research-fellows to be
the correct staff list. This is showing ‘research-fellows’ tags now, thank you

Will we be able to add multiple tags to these selections? For example, if I wished to show research-fellows AND research-consultants in this list, is that possible.
This looks possible now, but I haven’t tested it. There looks like there will be a problem that the consultants and research fellows all get mixed together, rather than they are in separate sections.

Services + Resources + Books etc.

The red boxes are different sizes on a computer browser (Mac Safari)
This is better now, thank you

Consultants

The ordering of consultants is on the first name, but should be surname.
This is correct, thank you

RESEARCH / RESEARCH FELLOWS
The alphabetised surnames is not across the whole site, for example the research fellows do not show in alphabetised order (I have added two people to illustrate this). This is correct, thank you

Some of the consultants cannot be clicked to their bio page, even though they
have one. The only way to fix it is to unselect ‘has own page’, update the page,
then reselect ‘has own page’, and update.
It looks like the error has been corrected by unchecking and rechecking the button and updating. The bug may still persist later though, I will do a test.

IN SEARCH Consultants, you have the option to choose a tag to limit the entries. One tag is Nurse Leads, but if you type Nurse Leads into the search text field, it doesn’t find anything because it is only looking at names.

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Steve Preston

Head of Media and Digital Production

On 14 Aug 2024, at 14:27, Joseph Gregson > wrote:

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Hi Stephen,

I have gone through the changes and corrected them so they are site wide. All the comments you have made in red should now be amended, other than the following:

In regards to your comment “Will we be able to add multiple tags to these selections? For example, if I wished to show research-fellows AND research-consultants in this list, is that possible.” I have now made this a list, and each element in the list will be included and displayed in the list of team members.

For the two search forms on “Courses” and “Consultants”, the functionality you’re asking for tends not to be done using the search term bar, but using a filter dropdown instead. For example when searching consultants by “Nurse Leads” it is better UX (User Experience) for the user to be prompted on what tags there are available to be associated with the consultants and so they can choose from them rather than not knowing what to type. Similarly when searching dates it is general practice across the web to have this as a filter dropdown, and not part of the search term bar.

That being said I would suggest implementing these two options;
– Adding a drop down in which all the tags for the Consultants are a choice, for them to filter accordingly.
– Adding a multiselect dropdown for courses to allow users to filter their search that way.

Thanks,
Joe

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